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Mark Leibovich: DeSantis Is Not the Savior
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Mark Leibovich: DeSantis Is Not the Savior

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Republicans are big mad about Herschel's loss, but they won't name the guy who got this production off the ground. Meanwhile, low-energy Trump is plotting how to take out the charmless but ruthless DeSantis. Mark Leibovich joins Charlie Sykes on today’s podcast.

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