Jan 19 • 45M

Michael Schmidt: "I Didn't Know They Made People Like That"

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Charlie Sykes
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Before John Kelly became chief of staff, he thought the chaos at the White House was due to the people around Trump. Instead, each day was about getting through the day without Trump doing something illegal, immoral, or damaging to himself or the country. Mike Schmidt joins Charlie Sykes today.

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