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Tom Nichols: Our Fatal Complacency

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Pence warned us about the threat to our democracy, and we shrugged. Plus, Bethany Mandel can't define woke, Fox can't keep its talking points straight, DeSantis is Trump's Mini Me, and the despicable elitism of the American right. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes.

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