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Giles Hinders's avatar

My only addition: I think it also goes to show an old formulation that we (the US) tend to keep to: Our enemies are the governments of Iran/Russia/NK, not their people and we would prefer to live in peace, friendship, and collective security with them but their governments make that impossible or their cost unacceptable. I see the duty to warn approach as action matching words - we are not at war with the people of Russia or Iran as such, and we will inform their governments who are a better position to protect the lives of their people through dissemination of information (which their people may not believe if it came directly from us) and physical security as well as give information to US nationals through our own embassies and institutions. Again, always imperfectly. And again, there will always be shameless, cruel, or blinkered people who see this as a weakness rather than part of America's undeniable strength.

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Travis's avatar

"If you don’t make an effort to put the white hat on every day, then eventually you wear the black hat without even realizing it."

I often fail at doing this--usually out of anger at the other side--and I can *feel* my goodness slipping away when I get that way. Maybe I'll never be that kind of Obi-Wan Kenobi figure who always wields the ability to resist the dark side. Maybe I'll just end up on the Walter White/Daenerys Targaryen path of starting off with good white hat intentions and then character arcing into a black hat. Or maybe I'll end up being more like Jamie Lannister. Bad at times, but good when it really counts when the chips are down. Maybe that's why I always appreciated Game of Thrones. It embraced the full spectrum of all of its characters rather than the binary "white hat or black hat" types. The world is complicated, and so are people (and nations), and everyone ultimately has a decision as to where they want their character (or country) arc to end up, and it's not always so cut and dry.

The US did a whole lot of awful shit on the road to defeating Hitler and Tojo in WWII, but we're roundly seen as being the good guys in that conflict by mere comparison. FDR's administration put Japanese-Americans into internment camps, turned away Jewish asylum-seekers from Germany that ultimately sent them to their deaths (including Anne Frank's family), and authorized the firebombing and burning down of over half of close to 70 cities in Japan (in addition to Dresden). As I said, the world is complicated and so are people and nations. Some days those white hats get tinges of black on them, and some days those black hats get tinges of white on them. The world and man are very very grey in the final cut of history when it comes to most cases of characters and nations. There are a whole lot of grey hats out there, and maybe that's closer to where the US is as a whole given our recent past in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

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